FSUIPC wrong weather in LGAV

[apomet]

Dear Pete,
I am using FS9.1 with FSUPIC 3.912 intalled and ASA.My default airport is LGAV in Athens,Greece.When I load ASA and start FS9 and then run WeatherSet2.exe, the weather I get from WeatherSet2 is different from what ASA gives me.My problem is that I have another utility RealATIS that gets the weather from FSUIPC and as long as FSUIPC has a wrong weather then RealATIS gives me wrong ATIS message as well.This happens only with LGAV.OI do not have any problems with other airports.Any suggestions?You can try this in your system and tell me.

[Pete Dowson]

Dear Pete,
I am using FS9.1 with FSUPIC 3.912 intalled and ASA.My default airport is LGAV in Athens,Greece.When I load ASA and start FS9 and then run WeatherSet2.exe, the weather I get from WeatherSet2 is different from what ASA gives me.My problem is that I have another utility RealATIS that gets the weather from FSUIPC and as long as FSUIPC has a wrong weather then RealATIS gives me wrong ATIS message as well.This happens only with LGAV.OI do not have any problems with other airports.Any suggestions?You can try this in your system and tell me.

FSUIPC can only provide the weather which is actually set in FS. Why do you think it is wrong? You can cross check this by actually looking at and checking the weather in FS -- check the FS ATIS, for example. If there's any disagreement with what ASA provides you really need to deal with HiFi Simulations, who are the ASA publishers.

Maybe you are simply not giving ASA enough time, once FS9 is ready to accept its inputs, before checking. It is not instantaneous. You also need to distinguish between the weather at a particular point on the airport with that at the designated weather station, which can in some cases be some miles away. WeatherSet2 is capable of reading the weather at the aircraft (its default mode) or at a Lat/Lon, or at the weather station. Try the latter -- enter LGAV for the location.

Regards

Pete

[apomet]

First off all LGAV airport at LGAV does not provide ATIS,I do not know why.
I thought and correct me if I am wrong,that ASA is connected to FSUIPC so the weather WeatherSet2 shows is the current weather downloaded by ASA for LGAV.But if you compare this weather and current METAR ASA gives tou for LGAV you will find difeerences in clouds, winds and temperature.
Also if you try to enter the ICAO code for LGAV to WeatherSet2 you get a weather for a station but this is not LGAV weather, and moreover LGAV does not show in WeatherSet2.Try to see it for yourself.If everything is OK then the problem is with ASA.I have made a request at Hifisim site as well.

[apomet]

By the way I am using a purchased version Of FSUIPC 3.0
I have got it from SimMarket.
ORDER Number: 64441
Apostolos Metaxas

[Pete Dowson]

First off all LGAV airport at LGAV does not provide ATIS,I do not know why.

In that case there's no weather station there. Let me check ...
... No, the Athens weather station in FS is still LGAT.

If ASA is trying to set a weather station, by ICAO ID, in FS and it isn't registered in FS as a weather station, then ASA's attempts will fail. It should be able to detect this as FSUIPC will indicate it. You could enable FSUIPC's weather logging and take a look to see what is happening, but be warned, the Log will be huge!

I thought and correct me if I am wrong,that ASA is connected to FSUIPC so the weather WeatherSet2 shows is the current weather downloaded by ASA for LGAV.

Only if ASA is actually managing to get and set LGAV weather. If it is doing it by setting weather at a Latitude/Longitude, and that point is near your aircraft, then the weather shown in WeatherSet2 for "weather at aircraft" should agree. But if any other circumstances apply, then it won't -- LGAV is not an FS weather station.

Whether it is in real life or not I don't know. Maybe when they opened the new airport they didn't move the weather station? Maybe you really should be asking for ATIS from LGAT instead?

... and moreover LGAV does not show in WeatherSet2.

Yes, that makes sense because LGAV is not an FS weather station.

Regards
Pete

[Pete Dowson]

By the way I am using a purchased version Of FSUIPC 3.0

Not version 3.0 I hope! The only supported version for FS9 is currently 3.90. there's a version 3.915 available in the Announcements above.

Pete

[apomet]

I do not know why LGAV does not have a registered weather station in FS.Is there a way to solve this issue or register LGAV weather station in FS?

[Pete Dowson]

I do not know why LGAV does not have a registered weather station in FS.Is there a way to solve this issue or register LGAV weather station in FS?

The weather stations are detailed in several files -- but not really editable by hand. The dynamic one, used by FS when downloading whether, is actually updated from time to time from the weather site. But such updates never add anything not already listed in the master lists in the FS Weather folder.

In FSX, SimConnect does provide facilities to add 2temporary" weather stations -- used by ASA for Oceanic weather, for instance. It is actually possible to create one called "LGAV" via SimConnect, though I don't know if ASA bothers. Even FSX's weather station list does not include LGAV, which is why I asked whether there really was one with that ID. It does include LGAT.

Regards

Pete

[apomet]

Of course there is a weather station at LGAV airport.LGAV is the biggest international airport in the capital of Greece,Athens.If you search other sites that provide METARS you will find current METAR from LGAV.
http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/metar.shtml

[Pete Dowson]

Of course there is a weather station at LGAV airport.

That may well be, but does it have the id "LGAV"? That's the point. If so, you need to tell Jeppesen and Microsoft, not me. I am not responsible for FS's weather station list. As I said, they still have LGAT listed for both FS9 and FSX.

Sorry, i cannot help you any more. You know why it is happening now. What you do about it is up to you.

Pete

[apomet]

Ok.Thanks a lot for your help.

[JSkorna]

Pete,

If you go to LGAV in FS04 and use ASA you will see that the weather reported in WeatherSet2 is exactly what ASA is reporting and also what shows up in FS.

Thanks!

[Pete Dowson]

If you go to LGAV in FS04 and use ASA you will see that the weather reported in WeatherSet2 is exactly what ASA is reporting and also what shows up in FS.

I think the gentleman's problem isn't quite that, but instead the weather reported for the weather station called "LGAV", which doesn't appear to be listed as a weather station by FS.

Perhaps the problem really is in this "RealATIS" program he is using to obtain LGAV weather reporting -- if it is asking for weather at a station which doesn't exist, and then reads it without checking for success, it will get the global weather instead. FSUIPC has no choice. It doesn't know where the station would be if there was one. The application should check for success. It could always then supply the Lat/Lon instead -- as in fact I think Radar Contact does in the first place in order to get its ATIS. Of course that would imply it using a database (which of course RC does).

Have you answered him in the HiFi Forum? I doubt he'll be coming back here -- he effectively waved goodbye after I failed to help him.

Regards

Pete

[apomet]

JSkorna wrote:
If you go to LGAV in FS04 and use ASA you will see that the weather reported in WeatherSet2 is exactly what ASA is reporting and also what shows up in FS.

When ASA gives the followinG METAR for LGAV at FS9
LGAV 151920Z 33003KT 10SM FEW025 27/10 Q1016 NOSIG

WeatherSet2 gives the following Data (see image).IS THAT THE SAME???????????

[JSkorna]

Pete,

Here is what I get. It is an airport and it is a data station in FS04. All I am trying to show is that ASA does pull LGAV weather, FS04 recognizes LGAV and WeatherSet2 does correctly recognize the data. We are dealing ing with this here, at our forum and through e-mail and it is getting a bit confusing.